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Character Creation

Post by cave_lion » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:22 pm

Use this topic for posts related to the process of Character Creation. You can wait until TOS 3.0 comes out to send in the .tos files (unless you want to send one for me to look at--that is fine too). Initially I would like to see posted for each character:

A (very) basic back story. I am going to tie everyone in each campaign together by storyline, so any ideas you have for character concept will help me do this as realistically as possible. Especially useful would be basic type of upraising (farmer/city/etc); religious inclinations; reason for choice of Class; and any professions or Crafts you plan on taking.

Tokens: please provide a picture representing your character--so I can make the tokens we will be using in the maps. I know many of you are experienced with making these tokens, but I would prefer to make the tokens myself so I can use a consistent border for all players.

Other Questions: If you have questions about Character Creation, please spend some time reading the rest of this post and then go here and here. Chances are good your question has already been answered in one of these places.

Player List: As it stands now.
Here are the two campaigns in a preliminary line up. This may be modified to balance the parties as I discover specific character abilities. If anyone has any recommendations or preferences feel free to send a pm. This Campaign is now closed...

A 1 means background is submitted. A 2 means token is submitted. A ? means info is needed.


1 2 LinusMundane: Montavious VonMater, Human Bard
1 2 mr_man: Dakar, Half-orc Barbarian linked to Sheen
1 2 Duniagdra: Bigdredge Cutterman, Dwarf Cleric of Sarenrae
1 2 kabkal: Keveak Serpenthelm the Swordsmith, Human Fighter
1 2 patransom: Skara Syralis, Tiefling Rogue
1 2 klakxor: Marakast Wellhope, Gnomish Sorcerer
1 2 jennaver: Sheen, Pixie Sorcerer linked to Dakar

1 2 Arpat: Dordolio, Halfling Bard
1 2 scarymike23: Zanice Songsteel, Dwarven Cleric
1 2 esselmonster: Bhen the Proper, Human Monk
1 2 marine7312000: Birag Stoneshatter, Half Orc Paladin
1 ? shai-hulud: Nekki Tinkerton, Halfling-ish Rogue
1 ? Benji: Treye Hirther, Human Sorcerer
1 2 greg_BSCIS : Taedyn Firisol, Half Elven Sorcerer

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Re: Character Creation

Post by Duniagdra » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:27 pm

cave_lion wrote:Starting Equipment/Wealth: Use table 6-1 on page 140 in the CRB (Pathfinder Core Rule Book). There are also Feats, and Traits that modify this. If you don't have the CRB go here. I will also be adding some things once I know everyone's race, class and background choices.
You're allowing traits then? How many? Anything restricted?
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Re: Character Creation

Post by cave_lion » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:39 pm

For those unfamiliar with Traits here is a link to a Paizo description of them. There was at least one free downloadable pdf booklet about them--and they are also spread throughout some of the Pathfinder Chronicles settings.

duni--as far as which are allowed--having not seen all of them I would have to sayI am not sure about that...

But chances are I won't be too bothered by anything anyone comes up with as long as it is in the spirit of what they are. So pick (or create) what you want and if I have a problem with it I'll let you know.

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Post by Duniagdra » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:47 pm

The thing about traits is that they are considered half feats, meaning that some give bonuses to skill, some to attack/damage, some to other aspects of the character. So, how many traits are we limited to, 2, 3, 4, 5? I could likely find 3-5 traits that would add to my character's persona and ability. Is there a limit in number you wish to keep us at?
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Re: Character Creation

Post by cave_lion » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:04 pm

Given the nature of this campaign and how isolated everyone will be, I am ok with up to 4 Traits-- if you can build it into your background in a way that isn't so far fetched that I roll my eyes when I read it :)

And remembering the rule that only one Trait can be picked from any one specific list... (self created ones would need to be thought out as far as what category they would logically belong to.)

I will also be granting a few bonus Traits here and there, as the Character Creation process develops and before the game starts.

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Re: Character Creation

Post by klakxor » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:08 pm

Starting Gold - Roll or use average??

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Post by cave_lion » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:14 pm

That question, and many others are already answered here.

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Post by klakxor » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:26 pm

cave_lion wrote:Starting Equipment/Wealth: Use table 6-1 on page 140 in the CRB (Pathfinder Core Rule Book). There are also Feats, and Traits that modify this. If you don't have the CRB go here. I will also be adding some things once I know everyone's race, class and background choices.
I do not have the CRB but the link takes you to a table that shows both the average and the roll amount.

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Re: Character Creation

Post by cave_lion » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:50 pm

oh--sorry about that--I have never used an average for starting wealth so didn't catch that that was an option. Roll for it and pray Desna is on your side...

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Post by Arpat » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:31 am

Sounds really cool!
if you have a space left i want to get in!
Still need a bard? or is something else now more suitable?
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Re: Character Creation

Post by cave_lion » Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:51 am

Hi Arpat--yes there are spaces still--as long as the latest TOS newsletter doesn't dig up too many newbies... One of the parties does need a Bard (they are tied into the storyline in a special way.)

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Post by Arpat » Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:51 am

RRRRReally nice :))
Add me to the list of wannabees! :thumb1: I'll love to (learn to) play the Bard.
I'll read the details when im at home in a few hours...
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Re: Character Creation

Post by cave_lion » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:49 pm

you certainly do qualify for the bonus duni :) Not going for the double bonus though--then everyone would do that and we'd have so many weird behaviors no one would be able to be in the same room with each other...

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Post by cave_lion » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:33 pm

We are getting real close to starting this game. I want to spend the next week to 10 days doing some light role playing with each individual character to get everyone to where they need to be for the beginning setup. At that point TOS 3.0 should be out or close to out, and if anyone else shows up from the TOS newsletter release there are still a couple of slots left to take care of that.

I want to verify at this time, that everyone who has expressed an interest in this campaign will have a slot reserved for them, if they are still interested in playing. I will be following up with each player individually over the next few days to iron out the character backgrounds. This will partially be through PM's and partially through the Individual Character Posts I will be setting up (some are actually there already).

Looking forward to torturing all of you!
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Post by LinusMundane » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:01 pm

I can't wait to start, looking forward to this a lot.
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Re: Character Creation

Post by greg_BSCIS » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:42 am

Is there still room and do my eyes deceive me, there is no range characters? Granted it is a dungeon but with the pointblank\precision shooting feat, close quarters are no longer a major issue.

Is there a tutorial on PbP play.

And what is a token?
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Post by greg_BSCIS » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:44 am

Ok, a token is a pic representing my toon - I just found what a token is :)
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Post by cave_lion » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:00 am

Hi Greg--yes there are still a few slots open--would you like one of them? You would need to join the Forum as an Active Subscriber. And yes--a ranged character would be a good thing--there are some ranged weapon users but no specialists. Also a bit short on magic user types... (perhaps partially because the directions discourage wizards...)

forgot to answer your question--don't know of a tuitorial on PbP--but if you read through the creation process for TWLD and then pick one or two of the active PbP's to read through you will quickly get an idea of how it works. Very similar to a regular game except it is mostly written instead of spoken and it goes much slower.

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Post by greg_BSCIS » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:25 am

Yes please, I would like one of the slots - please bear with me ... :)

Should I wait until 3.0 to become an Active Subscriber? I do not currently have a subscription because I haven't been playing PnP games for the last 4 years. I have only been playing MMOs during that time.

What class do you think I should play? I can play either\or. Is crowd control seriously lacking?

I need to also purchase PF - $10 for the PDF. I am no longer into the books since I can store my whole library on a flash drive... :)
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Post by Duniagdra » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:57 am

greg_BSCIS wrote:Yes please, I would like one of the slots - please bear with me ... :)

Should I wait until 3.0 to become an Active Subscriber? I do not currently have a subscription because I haven't been playing PnP games for the last 4 years. I have only been playing MMOs during that time.

What class do you think I should play? I can play either\or. Is crowd control seriously lacking?

I need to also purchase PF - $10 for the PDF. I am no longer into the books since I can store my whole library on a flash drive... :)
There's no time like the present to become an active subscriber. Once you subscribe, you gain instant access to any updates released. That includes new version releases. But you need an active subscription. Otherwise, you have to buy each new release of TOS+. At least I think you do, I'm a Divine Subscriber, so I haven't needed to buy TOS+ in a long time. LOL
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Re: Character Creation

Post by cave_lion » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:03 am

greg_BSCIS wrote:Yes please, I would like one of the slots - please bear with me ... :)

no worries--from the sound of things you are an experienced gamer--shouldn't take too much to get you up to speed

Should I wait until 3.0 to become an Active Subscriber? I do not currently have a subscription because I haven't been playing PnP games for the last 4 years. I have only been playing MMOs during that time.

At this point, likely a moot question, as Richard is days away from releasing TOS 3.0

What class do you think I should play? I can play either\or. Is crowd control seriously lacking?

both parties are well balanced, so it is really up to your preference. As you mentioned a specialist ranged character would be a nice addition (either as a fighter, ranger, or scout). Also a "wild magic" type spell caster would be a good addition to either party (sorcerer, warlock, etc). But really...it's up to you...

I need to also purchase PF - $10 for the PDF. I am no longer into the books since I can store my whole library on a flash drive... :)
There is also great online support established already. Try here and here for good places to start.

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Re: Character Creation

Post by greg_BSCIS » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:16 pm

Ok I am good - just waiting for Rich now.

What do you think about either of these?

Fighter\*Wizard\Arcane Archer path

or

(Fighter)\*Sorceror\Eldricth Knight path

*-denotes Half-Elf or Human favored class.

or do you prefer us to be only single class?

Both paths will give a good amount of range and spells if level.
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Post by cave_lion » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:40 pm

greg_BSCIS wrote:Ok I am good - just waiting for Rich now.

What do you think about either of these?

Fighter\*Wizard\Arcane Archer path

or

(Fighter)\*Sorceror\Eldricth Knight path

*-denotes Half-Elf or Human favored class.

or do you prefer us to be only single class?

Both paths will give a good amount of range and spells if level.
Multi-class is fine/any 3.5 class option is fine too
If you pick a Wizard just keep in mind that, because you are going into an isolated dungeon for a couple of years potentially, you will be at the mercy of the die for what spells you can learn (based on found scroll or spell book contents)--so if you specialize you may have trouble finding the right spells to use...

Also--do try and get your background info to me asap as I am going to begin some basic roleplay this weekend as a way to prep the story and get all the characters working together...

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Post by patransom » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:55 pm

Remember that wizards get to choose two new spells for their spellbook each time they level up, so it's not like you would be completely at the mercy of found items.
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Post by greg_BSCIS » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:05 pm

cave_lion wrote:
Multi-class is fine/any 3.5 class option is fine too
If you pick a Wizard just keep in mind that, because you are going into an isolated dungeon for a couple of years potentially, you will be at the mercy of the die for what spells you can learn (based on found scroll or spell book contents)--so if you specialize you may have trouble finding the right spells to use...

Also--do try and get your background info to me asap as I am going to begin some basic roleplay this weekend as a way to prep the story and get all the characters working together...
I do not plan to specialize, I will think about which spell casting class is better for a dungeon - A sorcerer might just be better for a dungeon than a Wizzy.

Background - I am not familiar with the world we are playing in - does it matter?
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Post by cave_lion » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:23 pm

patransom wrote:Remember that wizards get to choose two new spells for their spellbook each time they level up, so it's not like you would be completely at the mercy of found items.
Well this is actually based on Wizards being able to study and interact in a normal world setting. It's not roleplayed because it would be boring to do that--but it is based on certain things being available. Because of the nature of TWLD a wizard character can not assume they can just "pick" any two spells because they are isolated from anyone/anything that would allow them to discover and learn them. There would be exceptions to this--specifically spells that are related to other spells--those you can assume a wizard would be able to extrapolate from the prior known spell. And some spells I would allow a Wizard to learn from a Cleric or Sorcerer--though this would be pretty limited due to the completely different way spells are cast between the two classes. But in general, Wizards would be limited to learning from found scrolls and spellbooks. That may not be a bad thing--this is a high magic setting--but just as long as you realize it will be a random luck of the draw kind of thing most of time,
greg_BSCIS wrote:Background - I am not familiar with the world we are playing in - does it matter?
Not at all--just need a basic idea of "who" the character is--general feel of a setting (city/farm/seafarer/etc) and how you were raised/alignment/skills if any before becoming an adventurer. From that I will fit you into the world and we will go from there...

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Post by greg_BSCIS » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:32 pm

Ok, when would you like it by?
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Post by Arpat » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:49 pm

a wizard could take a big book (like a bible or similar) and learn from it for a long time to come. trying to learn the magic etc...
maybe that could help?
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Post by greg_BSCIS » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:51 pm

Or just become a sorcerer and the spells just "come" to me ... :)
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Post by cave_lion » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:52 pm

well not to put any pressure on you but asap would be good :D

Don't need a big amount of time on this--really--just a few minutes. You can just do a list if you want instead of trying to write a story up... The character sheet will take more time--but that can wait till next week when TOS 3.0 comes out. Do you know about the .tos files and how to attach them to a post?

After setup is done you can expect to spend anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes per day (or maybe every other day depending on how other posters move) on this Campaign depending on how involved you want or need to be. It kinda feels like about two weeks of PbP play is equal to one typical session as it would be played around a table...

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