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I think thats a grab after a successful hit, which allows a free grapple check. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules ... C-Grab-Ex- https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules ... strict-Ex- |
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I think thats a grab after a successful hit, which allows a free grapple check. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules ... C-Grab-Ex- https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules ... strict-Ex- |
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These flowcharts might be useful if you don't already have them! Chart #1 Chart #2 |
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This is an excellent plan, but it's going to take a little while to execute. 1. Summon Monster is a 1 round spell, so Lola will begin casting the spell this round (Round 2), using her whole turn 2. The spell will complete, and the snake will appear, at the start of Lola's next turn (in Round 3). She can decide exactly where it appears at that time. 3. The snake can immediately act. You will want it to make a bite attack first. It can't constrict until it's got someone grappled. 4. If it hits with the bite attack, it can make a free CMB check to grapple Elaxan. 5. If the grapple check is successful, the snake will not only have Elaxan grappled, but it will also immediately deal its constrict damage. 6. In subsequent rounds (Round 4 and after), if Elaxan hasn't escaped, the snake will make a CMB check at +5 to maintain the grapple. 7. If successful, it can perform one of the other actions (move, inflict damage, pin) listed in Admin's flow chart #2, plus it will deal its constrict damage. Completely aside, back when they first introduced Pathfinder, they were all like "We fixed grapple! It's really easy to understand now." That was a lie. All they did was change it. It's just as complicated as it was in 3.5. Just my opinion, though. |
Lola will take the time to cast this.patransom wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:47 am
OUT OF CHARACTER This is an excellent plan, but it's going to take a little while to execute.
1. Summon Monster is a 1 round spell, so Lola will begin casting the spell this round (Round 2), using her whole turn
2. The spell will complete, and the snake will appear, at the start of Lola's next turn (in Round 3). She can decide exactly where it appears at that time.
3. The snake can immediately act. You will want it to make a bite attack first. It can't constrict until it's got someone grappled.
4. If it hits with the bite attack, it can make a free CMB check to grapple Elaxan.
5. If the grapple check is successful, the snake will not only have Elaxan grappled, but it will also immediately deal its constrict damage.
6. In subsequent rounds (Round 4 and after), if Elaxan hasn't escaped, the snake will make a CMB check at +5 to maintain the grapple.
7. If successful, it can perform one of the other actions (move, inflict damage, pin) listed in Admin's flow chart #2, plus it will deal its constrict damage.
Completely aside, back when they first introduced Pathfinder, they were all like "We fixed grapple! It's really easy to understand now." That was a lie. All they did was change it. It's just as complicated as it was in 3.5. Just my opinion, though.
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Thanks I have downloaded them, now to remember to look at them as needed. |
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In case the last validation post got scrolled off before some of you saw it, it's here. Waiting on Cyrius and Ardrea. |
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Apparently my last entry got lost in cyberspace. |
Cyrius responds to Elaxan's attack on Worel by moving to 0608 and swinging at Elaxan with his mind blade.
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The tavern patrons are indifferent. You can move through their spaces without penalty, but cannot end your move sharing a space with them. They count as cover against ranged attacks. Evil Eye on Elaxan: -2 to saves, 1 round left Protective Luck on Worrel: attackers must roll twice and use the lower result, 1 round left Round 3 Continues 1. Worrel: unarmored, sword and shield readied, 7 hp damage 2. Lola: armored, +1 short sword readied 3. Tex: fully equipped, 2 potions of CMW left, 29 arrows left Round 4 Begins 4. Ardrea: bracers, amulet, ring, cloak, spell pouch, MW dagger sheathed, flight hex 5.7 minutes left today 5. Prost: armored, haversack, unloaded sling staff readied, 46 bullets left, 13 hp damage 5a. Fluffy 6. Cyrius: unarmored, mind blade longsword and mind blade shield readied 7. Elaxan: potion and short sword readied, also seems to have some weird ability to make lethal unarmed strikes, 35 hp damage |
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Excellent. Updated above. Don't forget to post a Round 4 action. |
Lola is going to complete the spell this round, and continue with the plan as stated.patransom wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:47 am
OUT OF CHARACTER This is an excellent plan, but it's going to take a little while to execute.
1. Summon Monster is a 1 round spell, so Lola will begin casting the spell this round (Round 2), using her whole turn
2. The spell will complete, and the snake will appear, at the start of Lola's next turn (in Round 3). She can decide exactly where it appears at that time.
3. The snake can immediately act. You will want it to make a bite attack first. It can't constrict until it's got someone grappled.
4. If it hits with the bite attack, it can make a free CMB check to grapple Elaxan.
5. If the grapple check is successful, the snake will not only have Elaxan grappled, but it will also immediately deal its constrict damage.
6. In subsequent rounds (Round 4 and after), if Elaxan hasn't escaped, the snake will make a CMB check at +5 to maintain the grapple.
7. If successful, it can perform one of the other actions (move, inflict damage, pin) listed in Admin's flow chart #2, plus it will deal its constrict damage.
Completely aside, back when they first introduced Pathfinder, they were all like "We fixed grapple! It's really easy to understand now." That was a lie. All they did was change it. It's just as complicated as it was in 3.5. Just my opinion, though.
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If I need to reroll I will, otherwise just use the previous rolls since they were for this anyway. |
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Got it. I will use the previous rolls for the snake. But... the spell completes at the start of Lola's round, so she also has a full round of actions of her own she can take! What does she want to do? |
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Move - 30 ft to 1009 Attack with longsword |
Since the dude moved, I will place the snake at 1109 next to him.
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Combat is over, but I'll continue to track rounds for a bit, since there are still some timed effects in play. Evil Eye on Elaxan: -2 to saves, 1 round left; -2 to AC, 7 rounds left Protective Luck on Worrel: attackers must roll twice and use the lower result, 1 round left Summoned Celestial Constrictor Snake: 5 rounds left Worrel: unarmored, sword and shield readied, 7 hp damage Lola: armored, +1 short sword readied Tex: fully equipped, 2 potions of CMW left, 25 arrows left Ardrea: bracers, amulet, ring, cloak, spell pouch, MW dagger sheathed, flight hex 5.5 minutes left today Prost: armored, haversack, unloaded sling staff readied, 46 bullets left, 22 +1 bullets left, 13 hp damage Cyrius: unarmored, mind blade longsword and mind blade shield readied Elaxan: dagger, potion, and short sword dropped, 60 hp damage, unconscious and bleeding |
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Which 1st level spell will Lola give up to cast cure light wounds? |
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Worrel: unarmored, sword and shield readied, 7 hp damage Lola: armored, +1 short sword readied Tex: fully equipped, 2 potions of CMW left, 25 arrows left Ardrea: bracers, amulet, ring, cloak, spell pouch, MW dagger sheathed, flight hex 5 minutes left today Prost: armored, haversack, unloaded sling staff readied, 46 bullets left, 22 +1 bullets left, 13 hp damage Cyrius: unarmored, mind blade longsword and mind blade shield readied Elaxan: dagger, potion, and short sword dropped, bound, 48 hp damage |
patransom wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:16 am Ardrea stabilizes Elaxan while Tex binds the man with some rope from his pack.
Lola dismisses the snake, then casts a spell that brings Elaxan back to consciousness. He looks surprised to be alive.
OUT OF CHARACTER Which 1st level spell will Lola give up to cast cure light wounds?
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Remove Fear |
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Detect Evil |